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Poster: AshesRising Date: Sep 22, 2007 4:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Hunter's thoughts on "American Beauty," etc.

From Hunter's archive:

"American Beauty shows the GD playing, singing and songwriting skills in full stride. We had the confidence of a successful record (Workingman's Dead) behind, plus a shared sense of direction that was in tune with the times. The Band, The Byrds, Poco, CSNY & Dylan were all exploring traditional music augmented by the power of rock & roll. Psychedelia had had its moment (marking the GD forever in the public perception) and we were continuing to evolve what we believed to be the logical next step in American music, hence the title. .
There is an underlying tone of sadness to American Beauty (Phil's father had just passed away, Jerry's mother was dying in the hospital as the result of an auto accident) reflected in the colors of such tunes as Box of Rain, Brokedown Palace Attics of My Life and Ripple.
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On the up side, Sugar Magnolia/Sunshine Daydream re-affirmed the important business of just getting stupid and being in love, while Truckin' announced, as early as 1970, what a long, strange trip it already seemed to have been. This didn't refer only to the GD, but to the ten years of bluegrass, old timey & jug band configurations leading up to the rock & roll departure. Grateful Dead Live ('71) Europe '72 & the Garcia solo release (also 72) staked out the GD's musical territory in a definitive way.
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It wouldn't be until 1975 and Blues for Allah that we would break with that feeling and extend the territory into less definable musical spaces, neither psychedelic nor traditional based. This amorphous state of transition lasted until 1985 when In the Dark once again found us in command of our direction in a way comprehensible to the public.
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American Beauty remains the favorite studio record of many fans and members of the band, mustering, as it does, all the resources at our command in a futile but game response to the rising tide of commercially safe music which had already begun a counter-mission to recover its monopoly of the American airwaves and record racks in the '70's."
[@Robert Hunter, 1996-2007]
http://www.hunterarchive.com/files/lyrics/teleprompter.html
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--- AshesRising

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 22, 2007 5:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

Why do you insist on posting this jibberish about Robert Hunter on this site about THE GRATEFUL DEAD? There are plenty of sites where you can discuss this mediocre songwriter and his thoughts about crap albums by bands that play in a bluesy, countryesque, gospelese, psychodeliclike, quasi r and b fashion. Oh they goofed off with Miles Davis, I forgot pseudojazz as well.

Lets please keep the discussion on the Grateful Dead and of course Black Sabbath.

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Sep 22, 2007 5:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

elbow1126: thank you for the reminder. I posted a "Saturday Evening Post" on Wednesday night. Maybe you missed it(?) I will re-post shortly: "Flight of the Marie Helena: A Musical Narrative."

Please take your meds.; "idiot" is fine, but I prefer my favorite, "clown!" Later --

--- AshesRising

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Poster: Johny Untis Date: Sep 22, 2007 6:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

OooOOoooO Good dig. Too bad you're an idiot no matter what you try say. I have a suggestion? Go out and take a walk. Live a little and STOP OBSESSING about ONE band that was mediocre at best.

For the FIRST time I can say: YES IT was THE DRUGS that made you think it was good.

You want to talk 1968 to 1977 Grateful Dead then that is different because that's when they could still play. BUT IT was over 30 years ago this all happened!!! 30 YEARS AGO. PEOPLE MOVE ON and stop scrutinizing famous people YOU never MET!

SABBATH RULES BITCHES! Maybe I will start a Sabbath web site and we can talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk about ONE THING over and over and over and over and over AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN until no stone is left unturned. Hey folks you people would be my target audience!

PERFECT TOGETHER! Johny Unitis and you!

This post was modified by Johny Untis on 2007-09-23 01:15:00

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Sep 22, 2007 6:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

Johnny: can I write about the conversation I had with Robert Plant?

--- AshesRising

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Poster: Johny Untis Date: Sep 22, 2007 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

No because it's not about the Grateful Dead and lords knows we can't have that!

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Sep 22, 2007 6:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

the depth of your insight and observation is absolutely profound, how ever can the rest of the world compare; please, leave us to our single-minded viewpoint and let not your intellectual prowess shame us further

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Poster: Johny Untis Date: Sep 22, 2007 6:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

Well with all my surfing on here for years, I know you are a good guy. So I won't comment any further about you. You are a good guy IMO. I do mean that.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 22, 2007 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

Not sure which nerve I jumped on, but sorry I did. My first response to the Sabbathgate post was serious (does popularity necessarily equate to talent) but been playing along ever since. I think your posts have been kind of funny or else I would not have engaged and together we actually turned some folks on to the Etta James show so thats not bad either. I should not have called you a moron, my mistake.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Sep 22, 2007 6:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

shit, just when i wanted to portray the "bad-boy" image; however, you are wrong about "elbow" ... he, far more than i or many, is one of the good guys, seriously, IMHO; let it rest then

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Sep 22, 2007 5:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBlXEGLXlV0

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Sep 22, 2007 5:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

Thank you. "It's kinda BRIGHT" is another of my favorites from that clip.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 22, 2007 5:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

oh yeah I forgot to mention you are and IDIOT.

Now I feel much better about myself.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 22, 2007 5:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

Look at my elbow1126. Look at me, look at me. I' pretty. I'm special. Look at meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Sep 22, 2007 5:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

spaced: I know elbow1126 very well. One of the finer dudes I have ever dealt with (with discs and life)

--- AshesRising

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 22, 2007 6:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

was just being sarcastic, based on some earlier posts today, sorry for the confusion. ashes tells me you a cool dude, didn't mean to get you going.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 25, 2007 3:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hunter's thoughts on 'American Beauty,' etc.

Glad to continue the fun then.